@TheIzzyRock had a chat with Paul from the band Sadbox. He’s a man of many interests. When asked to provide links or promo, he said this.
“This isn’t a professional plug. No links. It’s a talk about things. I’m a general surgeon, hospital leader and award winning educator with special interest in modernizing care in parallel with technique. I have published research on using electronic systems to actually improve care and not just collect data. I’m a rocker.”
You should listen to his band Sadbox and buy their album, the Magic Nothing.

https://sadboxrocks.bandcamp.com/album/the-magic-nothing

We ended the podcast with the song New Car Smell. I enjoyed this podcast quite a bit and hope you find it informative.